Tuesday, November 25, 2014

Pruning The Dead Weight

This is a brief post, but it has more the one purpose.  I've dumped a few links (in part) since I feel they have been borderline hostile, ignorant, or slamming MGTOW philosophy while demonizing anyone who is sympathetic to it.   The irony is that the detractors I have read typically are characterizing MGTOW as the flip side of feminism, and it is anything but that ideology and nothing as destructive and certainly not misandrist.   We are not an organized movement or a cult, and we will not yield to the unhealthy toxic consensus or self-appointed figureheads that would lead us astray; we are individuals engaging in self-determination and do what is best for our lives, regardless of what the state, feminists, white knights, politicians, and their sycophants declare otherwise.  

The irony is that the current crop of barbs directed against it is very little different from feminist shamming.  As if that will change anything---it will only convince anyone who is already fed up with the proverbial slings and arrows they have received over time that the continued push against men has to be curtailed, and solidifies our own positions.  The fact of the matter is that MGTOW ideas have gotten bigger than people can dismiss now, and will have some very, very intriguing ramifications in the years to come.

That being said, anyone who is MGTOW friendly (even if just in spirit), let me know if you want to add you as a link I will most certainly consider it.  SR

Friday, August 29, 2014

Sandman on "Too Little, Too Late"

Sandman has been quite the powerhouse of sorts recently, and I wanted to share one of many videos to both newcomers and the old guard.  Without further ado, enjoy . . .  SR:

Too Little, Too Late

Friday, March 21, 2014

Women Are Their Own Worst Enemies

Many years ago my own sister went through a series of pretty rocky relationships, a near fatal overuse of both prescription and illegal drugs, and eventually married an man that was her rough equivalent---they were both emotionally and physically abusive.  While that marrage would not last and eventually she would evolve into someone that would much different from the addictive and moody young woman she was, her past lifestyle could have ruined or even killed her.   

Looking back, I always wondered why she had engaged in such reckless, antagonistic, and foolish behavior.  And why she even did it the first place.  What the hell was wrong with her?  People generally liked her when was growing up, and she certainly didn't face the problems I did. 

It would be easy to chalk it up to low self esteem, but it doesn't solve the puzzle.  On occasion, she would blame it on the idea that she had been someone raised to garner favor with others and place her needs on the backseat.  That doesn't illuminate much.  If anything, her forays into a descent with mindless hedonism and petty associations were often done as if in defiance of anything and everything, including what was good for herself.   

Even more troubling was that she lashed out to those who cared about her and would help her, even to the point where I was going to completely give up.  When she believed I would withdrawal completely, it was a surprise.  There was always someone could rely on for support. 

There was a period where she finally pushed me too far, and I thought that not even a modicum of understanding and care was present in her left, but I had to be the unconditional crutch in a way.  Her hypocrisy made me furious. 

Losing her brother---perhaps forever---was unthinkable, and her behavior didn't always get better until she truly realized it may have been for good.

Yeah, that's how bad it got. 

One might think her transformation from her past self to now was remarkable, but it took many years for her to become someone successful in some fashion, healthy again, and deeply motivated to improve on herself and her world. 

In my youth, it would puzzle me why so many women would go through such a hellish gauntlet.  For the longest time, very few every questioned if it was women themselves that were ultimately making piss poor choices in life, and not their final responsibility for bad judgment and decision making. 

We've heard the feminist narrative a thousand times.  It's misogyny in our culture.  Patriachy.  Oppression of women.  Ad nauseam.

And if you are feminist or not, the convienent scapegoat for your problems can always be men. 

For example look at the ones lamenting that there are not enough "alphas" out there for marital bliss.  They will explain all the good men are taken.  This is to mask their own failures at obtain a decent man, or their own insecuries and shortcomings.  Or for having sex and dating men that are toxic to them.  Or pushing good men away and treating them like dog shit.  That's to insure it is not their fault, feel smug and self-righteous even if they know inwardly, there's a chance it just might be their own doing.

God forbid they are the ones being rejected, and that they would have to be forced to look into the mirror with a hard gaze at who the problem really is. 

Even the women at the bottom---regardless of how much self-loathing they possess---still act as if they have some innate value because they are women.   And men have to measure up no matter what. What women generally damn and peg as "average Joes" have to struggle endlessly to date and mate in the sexual arena . .  . even though those same men would make suitable boyfriends, husbands, and fathers.

There's even quite a few people in the manosphere that will shift the blame entirely on men; "You weren't man enough" they will sneer, even though much of the bulk of Western society has become rigged against men so badly one must wonder why men bother with defending cultural norms and institutions to begin with---much less try to garner favor with women beyond obtaining sex. 

My sister happend to pull herself out of her self-destructiveness and even made amends (if painfully slow) with me and my parents. 

Note that if I was willing to sever ties permanently with a blood relative forever, imagine how American women who would try to pull Ameriskank behavior would fare.

Not very long.

And there are more men like me out there as we speak. 

Not every woman recreates herself.  Instead, what we have is a vast wasteland of women who reach a certain age---if they reach that age---who are looking for a beta male provider they can sucker into supporting them in a guilt-ridden manner.  And for every woman who actually doesn't ever go through the cycle my sister did and/or becomes successful, charming, health conscious, pretty, and marriage-worthy, we have legions upon legions of broken women littering the US landscape.  And while there are white knights and mangina who might still date them, the number of men questioning the evolutionary and societal dynamic between the sexes are growing. 

And we are sick of the raw deal we have had from day one.  Eventually, things will have to change. 

I do think women are quite capable of waking up to the fact they have not only ruined the underlying compact between the sexes, but they have become their own worst enemy in the process.  If they are willing to do so is another question entirely.  And it typically comes with a hefty price, and sometimes that reflection in the mirror is almost too mortifying to behold.  But if that's what it takes, so be it.

Friday, November 22, 2013

The Sword of SR Cutting into the Heart of the Night; Taking on Terri Trespricio

It's been months since I viewed Terri Trespicio's If You Can't Beat Them, Join Them as well as the accompanying video blog post Feminism Fucked Up My Dating Life, but since I rarely take someone to task, I feel that it's about time.  It's not merely for the sake of it, either; readers will know that I am reticent about spotlighting individuals not because of apprehension, but because I think it serves little purpose to engage in petty Internet wars.  It obscures the issues, although I have come to admit some times it's important to see what makes certain figures tick---and how it relates to men, women, and more pressing matters.

Apparently, Trespicio did not like Suzanne Venker's article The War On Men, particularly how she felt it went too far for stating it was women's fault that they deign there are no marriageable men or ones suitable for partnership---and contributing to that situation.  While she seems to act like she is admitting her own need to "win" when it comes to men and was driven to prove that she didn't need one in her life---and it could have contributed to her problems with men, I find that there's some more going on here that she won't focus on completely.

Venker states in the article:

Contrary to what feminists like Hanna Rosin, author of The End of Men, say, the so-called rise of women has not threatened men. It has pissed them off. It has also undermined their ability to become self-sufficient in the hopes of someday supporting a family. Men want to love women, not compete with them. They want to provide for and protect their families – it’s in their DNA. But modern women won’t let them.

Emphasis mine.

While I'll be the first to say that I have no attention of marriage and children (as my relatives seem to be pretty active in procreating on both sides of my family, if anyone is wondering), I knew pretty much what I wanted with a woman even in my late teens.  As the years passed, there are many things about the blatant misandry I endured that has made me fed up, even to the point I truly hate dating, but one thing is clear---Venker is correct that most men want to love women, not fight or compete with them.  And as I mentioned to the mighty Zed/Zedpriest himself holds true for modern women---women, on the other hand, don't want to be harmonious with men; they want to compete, bully, and bulldoze us.  And even take a sadistic pride in it.

It seems Terri was in august company with such women.  My, my . .  .  

And, of course, if we stand up for ourselves in the face of mistreatment, we are misogynistic assholes.  But if we "man up" and take a bit too much, we are push overs and "intimidated."  Still, men are reacting and adapting to a culture malaise that has far from ended.

Terri grew up with when an attitude "that men were basically up to no good, from quite a young age."  In her words:

I sneered at, and even humiliated men as a teenager, and if a guy liked me, I fairly resented him for it.

From her own admission, there was always an impulse to prove herself against men and "win" in more than one aspect, even if her own life supposedly suffered because of this.  Not that she has my sympathy.

After all, women pushed for feminism because---you got it---it benefited them, and only benefited a few select men.  Whether men were crushed in the ensuing fallout was not important.  

Of course, she credits feminism for largely doing good although it has done incalculable damage to men and the dynamic between men and women (including the white knights, but that's the subject of this post).  Feminism has even made things exceedingly difficult for men as myself, who grew up with notions of "egalitarianism" only to find that so many women wanted the license of it and the protection portion of neo-traditionalism if you will, and if men got trampled in the process, well, that was just either their fault or casualties to be expected.

And we discovered there were women who felt there were superior to us just because of their vaginas.  Or were given a rationale to hate us, and if we reacted, we were the "sexists" that didn't deserve a woman.  Or they would not take pressing male topics seriously.  And treat us less than human beings without an once of guilt until they were held accountable . . . if they were held accountable.  

Men were bad, irrelevant, no good, boorish . . . of course, the gears of modern technology and even civilization would not have advanced to this point without us (and the ones who have procured that are given little credit), but nevermind that right now.

There's no question about it.  Terri equated femininity---or at least what she perceived as pre-feminist behavior of it---as weak.  It's an undercurrent in her video when she states "I believe there is a real strength in feminine power, and we're still trying to figure out what that is."  Her idea of ingraining masculine code in herself was to win even if it meant rejecting and shaming men.  She internalized the darker part of what she viewed men were doing, nevermind the good in us or what we did.

Just like countless women also made a choice to do.

Let me tell Terri right now what isn't going to work---and why.  It may just take nearly her entire lifetime to sink in, and I'm not being facetious whatsoever.   Not beating men at their own game is only a part of it; in fact, I am having a hard time believing that Terri is "better" than most of the men she comes across; I'm wondering what that is specifically.  Yes, I'm quite serious.  Especially considering the average woman out there sports the mentality that she, and her sexuality, is of more import and value than men by default

And also, how is she going to undo all those years of how she mistreated and viewed men?  I mean .  .. really?

Usually women that have an axe to grind against men and constantly have to prove themselves don't often do this by merit alone.  Well-rounded, truly developed women don't constantly have to demonstrate how powerful they are to men by fighting with them incessantly---surprisingly---a few of them realize it is no small feat to get to that point without having some grounding in reality.    And realizing that alliances with men are crucial.  Unfortunately, this woman is so rare now that one could not blame men for believing they don't even exist anymore.

The ersatz "strong, independent" ball-busting woman who claims to be such often has her power  by proxy.  Or making sure that HR gets a man to behave to the point where his very job is on the line if he doesn't have the approval of a "superior" that doesn't like him because he physically reminds her of her ex, and she wants to get back at him through that employee.  Or it's done with such a know-it-all, towering arrogance that it's a turn off to does around her, and this includes men that might even be open to a relationship. 

No, men like me are not threatened.  We are simply done with all the bullshit.  And we are wondering if we are being sold a bill of goods again .  . .  that this time we're aren't buying.  And this will continue until things really change for us, or society falls through its ass.

Let me ask you, Terri, if you are reading this---if you were a man, would you blindly support a society that actively takes from you and barely gives back---or worse---punishes you for simply doing masculine things and still demands you to "act like a man?"  And more over, expect you to actually enjoy being used up without protest?

I don't think so.  I have two words for this:  Fuck that.

The fact of the matter is that there is a war on men that has been waging for a quite some time, and regardless of what shallow features Terri presents on her blog does nothing to diminish that notion.   She may have poured a little incendiary fluid to the already destructive inferno that was already raging before her, but the damage has been done.  There are men that have gotten to the phase in their lives where offering an olive branch is a laughable prospect.  It is only to get burned by this proverbial fire again, and have hordes of feminists, white knights, politicians, and their cohorts continue to give men a raw deal without addressing our concerns . . . and continue to tell men it's all our fault.

Dr. Helen Smith was certainly on to something when she mentioned about going Galt, including that men's real concerns were not being heeded so much that even some men had resorted to the extreme of suicide out of hopeless and complete desperation; when society stops listening to men, men start doing their own thing despite the incredible tide of anti-male hate against them.  It's reactive for some men, adaptive for quite a few, and even proactive/positive for others to do so. 

Men have been telling you people what we really need.  And you people still refuse to listen, and it's going to be pretty bad karma.

Again, I'm going to address Terri Trespicio here; that's the way men are, Terri---in times that are dire or bleak, even we eventually have to find a way for ourselves.  You can sit there smug in your own bubble contemplating dating, hook up culture, recipes, and whatever strikes your fancy.  As much as you loathed men in the past and pretended to be better than the bulk of us, we are busting our asses in a world that would soon discard us if we were not there for utility purposes.   And many of us are painfully aware of that fact, and we don't like it.  Not one bit.  

And Terri, you were part of the problem.

Yes, you were.  And I don't think you'll be helping any of us any time soon.

Was Venker's article so upsetting to you?  Perhaps it did hit a nerve, but you don't want to completely accept the charge that there are less and less  marriageable men because you .  . . with so many other women like you . . .  aided in conditions that made it so?  Or that men see what you are in spite of the strong image and decide to look elsewhere for real love?

Whether or not you are along for the ride and decide to join us instead of clobbering us may be even considered useless to those who have ghosted.  Eventually, you---and many, many women that are sharing the same sentiment, have worn out the welcome.    And if men do decide to engage women, they are resorting to others that may not be as hostile and even appreciate what they do and are as human beings; foreign women, minority women, FWBs, truly feminine women, and what have you.  And others have decided to opt out . . . and they are not coming back.

That should completely terrify you, but you will place a tough-girl facade on with the pretense that you can live without men.

Be careful what you wish for. 

Saturday, August 17, 2013

Myself and Obbop On Discussing Alleged Ameriskank "Generosity" And Selflessness

From a MGTOW forum recently:
I believe females tend to be more materialistic and greedy... feathering their own nest before considering others.

Perhaps a thought about the recent post mentioning yet another MALE fire fighter that died helping others and my comment about the lack of females volunteering to assist their community and others at a risk to themselves.

I will be hard to convince that females have more empathy for others than males do.

Men are far more prone to engage in self-sacrifice than women do as a given rule, and that's on practically every level. If there's a story about a woman saving someone that is unknown to her at the risk of her very life, I'd like to hear it. I'm sure it has happened but I'm at a loss of reading about a news event like that lately.

As a contrast, men have done this in Western culture throughout time, and not just for their own wives/offspring. Hell, there are women who claim that they will fight to the death for their children, but considering how many mistreat their own kids, I have to give pause. Of course, you can't tell them that they are shitty mothers or that they are still extremely selfish; watch the fury come close to the surface if you dare question it.

As far as lending money, even on my own experiences (when I did date) there were very few women that felt like they should contribute, or just were flat broke at the end of the month. I'd see women that would complain how an ex-boyfriend or ex-husband would ride on their coattails, and when they had got to me there was a chip on their shoulder. Suddenly, they wanted a man to pay up, simply put. The Gods only know how many women I went through like that---I figured if they were not lying about how allegedly generous they were with a partner (and they probably were lying on some aspect), and would shunt all the resentment on me, I'd dump them.

And women philanthropists? That's got to be an oxymoron. Seriously.

Perhaps a few individual females possess traits conducive to societal improvement but I believe most will be too busy squawking on their cell phones or staring at the sales rack in the mall to concern themselves with much more than meeting their own wants, desires and hedonistic lusts.

If more men dare wake up and realize how Ameriskanks are egocentric and selfish to the core---and what they truly think about men---you just might see more incidents like Costa Concordia accident manifest, and women forced to help themselves no matter what. Hell, if you even glance over personal ads out of boredom some time, you can see them getting more angry out of desperation for men to pick up the pieces of their broken lives and bad choices.

(Note:  We were in a discussion about an article that can be found here:  http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/21/opinion/sunday/why-men-need-women.html?pagewanted=all&src=ISMR_AP_LO_MST_FB&_r=0)

Andy Man On MGTOW



Sunday, July 14, 2013

Newer Comments Sent Through

Sorry if I have not been updating as of late---I have been extremely busy with work and my downtime consists of getting to the gym when I can and going to submission fighting practice.  No matter.  I let even a few weighty ones through just for discussion's sake.  Note my big two rules are no promoting violence for violence's sake, or feminists using this a playground for slagging men when they feel like it.  I don't believe in laundry list of points to bring up, but rather than dwell on the subject I figured I would like everyone know I'm still very much around and itching to write more.  Until then, I will post a couple of recent items from other MGTOW and go from there.  SR